Sunrise Flour Mills, located in Minnesota, makes great flours. I only found out from an Italian baker living in Sweden named Barbara Elisi. I ended up ordering four bags of their Red Fife Bolted and Turkey Red, both refined wheat. So far I've had some amazing results. It shows you that these days, a wired world yields word-of-mouth recognition. It's using the product that will prove the rumors. Sunrise Flours proved it to me. Thanks, Barbara Elisi. I hope you will try them and thank her, too.