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<div xmlns="http://www.w3.org/1999/xhtml"><p>Ever wonder about some of a bakers back-breaking, monotonous, repetitive functions, not just in front of the&nbsp; stove but even while&nbsp; all the rest of us are in bed with our eyes in the back of our heads darting to and fro in REM?</p>

<p>That's me. End of my day and can't stop the end-of-the-shift pictures flooding through my brain. That's also your typical professional baker. Like my amigo <a href="http://www.stirthepots.com/2008/05/vincent-the-bak.html">Vincent</a>. The &quot;in-it&quot; baker. As totally &quot;in it!&quot; It being the flour, the yeast, the heat, the expectations of a perfect bake. In all likeliness, right now Vincent is somewhere in the South of France probably whacking out huge amounts of crusty bread. Me I'm just a chef after the day is done sipping beer, ready for bed, imagining all the chefs around the world cooking up a storm, and all the bakers making dough!&nbsp; </p>

<p>Salut mon ami, Vincent! Take a look as he makes his bread!</p>

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<p>I have been craving a decent pie lately, as it seems my neighborhood joints don't make it the way that sings to me. Sign of the times, when there aren't even some Italian Pizzaoila's living in New York. What is a deranged home baking chef to do? Make it himself! Since I found myself regularly feeding my levain, I was happy to make a pizza dough for Sunday. Puffy, soft and airy, even though I didn't make it with any &quot;<a href="http://www.ochef.com/830.htm">00 flour</a>,&quot; it's not just that available or sitting around my kitchen. I used my Heckers unbleached A.P. and went to it, using a converted Neopolitan recipe spied on one of the holier-than-thou sites for pizza freaks. Then I cranked the <a href="http://www.stirthepots.com/2008/08/mick-hartley.html">Mick Hartley's </a>conversion scheme and went at it! </p>

<p>My oven only hits 550 degrees. And because of safety concerns, I am not about to Jimmy-rig it like my recent guest <a href="http://www.stirthepots.com/2008/08/jeff-verasano.html">Jeff Verasano</a>. Also, I don't have a self cleaning oven. And it's bad enough&nbsp; my wife already hates it when I bake at about 460 F for my regular loaves. She told me this morning no more baking for two weeks, put the flour away! So my observation on this is pizza, good chewy, crusty dough if stretched very thinly, airy and with buffala mozzarella. A bit of parmesano. And you're in like Flynn! Oh, don't forget the Black Chocolate Stout or some Winter Ale, soda is for kids.</p>





<p>Pizza Napoletana</p>

<p>Straight dough<br />500g 00 caputo or A.P. flour<br />325g aqua (water)<br />20g sale&nbsp; (salt)<br />3gr livieto </p>

<p>Sourdough version<br />376 g flour<br />201g&nbsp; Water<br />247g&nbsp; starter<br />3g salt</p><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br /><br />





















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<p>Since getting my <a href="http://www.stirthepots.com/2008/11/how-to-monge-a.html">baguettes</a> right, I decided to concentrate my efforts on some German rye <a onclick="window.open(this.href, '_blank', 'width=480,height=640,scrollbars=no,resizable=no,toolbar=no,directories=no,location=no,menubar=no,status=no,left=0,top=0'); return false" href="http://atcast.typepad.com/.shared/image.html?/photos/uncategorized/2008/11/08/cimg5660_4.jpg"><img width="100" height="133" border="0" src="http://www.stirthepots.com/images/2008/11/08/cimg5660_4.jpg" title="Cimg5660_4" alt="Cimg5660_4" style="margin: 0px 0px 5px 5px; float: right;" /></a>
and whole grain loaves. Honestly, there have been noticeable improvement in my endeavors so far. My second (or maybe it was my fifth!) attempt at a Volkornbrot was tasty. But honestly, it came out with a blown top. I dunno what that effect is called, but it didn't stop me from garnishing this toothy loaf with cheese and sausages.
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<p>Myself, I flipped through my multitude of recipes in books, spreadsheets and found a loaf that sounded monolithic - aka easy to make. Then preparing the sauer that proofed at least 18 hours for the following day's bake, dropping zeroes from final numbers on the PDF file found on the website of <a href="http://www.sauerteig.de/index.htm">B<span style="font-size: 0.8em;">ö</span>cker sauerteig</a>, I played it safe until feeling safe by going for a larger percentage of rye. </p>

<p>Point being????? What I'm suggesting below is a recipe that uses 70 percent wheat to 30 percent rye sort of a country loaf, and it could be turned into <span style="font-size: 0.8em;">Brötchen</span> rather than the huge three pounder I made here! The verdict, quick and easy, and good with some leberwurst I got from my butcher!</p>

<p>Point being??? Enjoy!</p>

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</p> <br /> <p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Rustikale Brötchen </span></p>













<p>1-stufige Sauerteigführung mit&nbsp; &nbsp; Reinzucht-Sauerteig </p> <p>(für 10 kg Gesamt-Mehlmenge berechnet) <br />30% Roggenmehl - 70% Weizenmehl 550 </p>

<p>Sauerteig: 0,120 kg Anstellgut* <br /> 1,20<del>0</del> kg Roggenmehl Teigausbeute:&nbsp; 180 (ca.) <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; <del>0</del>,96<del>0</del> l Wasser&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Teigtemperatur:&nbsp; 28°C <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; <del>2</del>,28<del>0</del> kg Sauerteig&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Stehzeit:&nbsp; 18 Stunden <br />* <br /> Anstellgut = BÖCKER Reinzucht-Sauerteig oder Betriebs-Sauerteig, mit BÖCKER Reinzucht-Sauerteig gestartet </p>

<p>Brötchenteig: 2,16<del>0</del> kg Sauerteig <br /> 1,80<del>0</del> kg Roggenmehl <br /> 7,00<del>0</del> kg Weizenmehl 550 Teigknetung: <br /> <del>0</del>,28<del>0</del> kg Brötchen-Backmittel Hubkneter: 1+4 Minuten <br /> 5,54<del>0</del> l Wasser (ca.) Spiralkneter: 1+3 Minuten <br /> <del>0</del>,20<del>0</del> kg Salz Teigausbeute:&nbsp; 165 (ca.) <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; <del>0</del>,40<del>0</del> kg Hefe&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; Teigtemperatur:&nbsp; 26°C <br />&nbsp; &nbsp; 17,38<del>0 </del>kg Brötchenteig&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;Teigruhe:&nbsp; 10 Minuten </p>

<p>Ballengare:&nbsp; &nbsp;10 Minuten <br />Ballengewicht:&nbsp; &nbsp;1700 - 1800 g </p>

<p>Nach der Ballengare Teig abpressen und nur teilen. Leicht mit Roggenmehl besieben. </p>

<p>Gärzeit:&nbsp; &nbsp;40 Minuten (ca) <br />Backtemperatur:&nbsp; &nbsp;230 - 240°C <br />Backzeit:&nbsp; &nbsp;20 - 25 Minuten <br />&nbsp; &nbsp;leicht Schwaden geben </p>

<p><span style="color: #cc0000;"> I adjusted my yeast to only 15g, it seemed like too much</span></p>

<p>You'll notice I just crossed off the zero's and went ahead and made this dough, it's suggested by <a href="http://www.stirthepots.com/2008/07/dieter-buschman.html">Dieter Buschmann </a>to make&nbsp; Brötchen at about 60grams.</p></div>
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</span><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">I first heard about&nbsp; </span><span style="font-size: 1.2em;"><a href="http://www.baecker-suepke.de/">Bäcker Süpke</a> from my friend <a href="http://theinversecook.wordpress.com/">Nils</a> and have since eagerly visited his blog. </span><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Challenged as I am in German</span><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">, through translations, I can get a feel for his bread language. For those who bake bread, it's a kinship as old as the wheat or rye and maybe even older grain stock that unite water, salt and flour together in those delicious loafs we both love to eat and with which we identify. What I enjoy the most about German bread is its palate memory in my own life, having been born there, and especially living there as an American soldier during the Cold War. I imagine that while Herr Süpke was baking some <a href="http://baeckersuepke.wordpress.com/2008/03/27/ddr-brotchen-rezept/">DDR loaf</a>, I was baking some hard tack biscuits protecting the free world not more than a stones throw from the East German border. Now no longer a soldier (thankfully), he has recently inspired me in making his often copied <a href="http://baeckersuepke.wordpress.com/2008/10/07/lutherbrot/">Lutherbrot</a>. And recently I decided to dedicate that autumnal loaf to our next President, a sign that good bread can do a lot for human relations!</span></p>

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<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Anyway, rather than podcast, today we're doing our own transcription. Enjoy the read, a record of our talk with master bread baker Wolfgang Süpke</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: How did you become a bread baker?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: I was apprenticing&nbsp; as a printer; unfortunately it was a government (SED) owned company. I had many drawbacks because of my religious beliefs.&nbsp; Therefore I tried to find another job. There were still independent employers in the backer trade and so I started a part time job in the bakery in my hometown. I really enjoyed working there and realized that this is what I want to do. So I made an apprenticeship as a backer and still work as one.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy:Being a baker from the former DDR, what did you find different in bread coming from the BRD (West Germany)?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: There was only one kind of Bread in the DDR (East Germany), while in the bread factories they offered two kinds of bread. I was impressed by the wide variety of bread in the BRD (West Germany).</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: What was bread like before and after the wall came down, or was it always the same?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang:. The common bread is still the same but the quality has&nbsp; improved,the variety has reached the same level as in West Germany. Nowadays, whole grain and fiber rich bread are more common.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: What is the &quot;Slow movement&quot;, political, social?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: “Slow baking” comes from the “slow food” movement. That means no more fast food, instead turning towards the basics, natural food and production processes, the pleasure of eating good food!</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: Hefe, (yeast) or sauerteig? (sourdough), Which is better?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;"> Wolfgang: It depends, I take a sourdough for rye but I like a long fermentation yeast sponge for wheat. I use always a small amount of yeast for my sourdough. I have to control the mellowness because we have a certain cycle in the bakery. I would only use sourdough for rye breads as a home baker!</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: What is German bread? Some think of it as grainy loaves, dense. What defines the real German bread for you? </span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang:There are more than 300 different kinds of bread in Germany, so it is impossible to say. Bread with 60%- 80% rye is popular in Thuringia but in the Rhineland they prefer rye-wholemeal with a special fermentation process so it’s pretty dark inside. In the southern part of Germany they like Wheat bread (20% rye and 80% wheat).<br />As a whole Germans love the variety, Multi-grain bread and wholegrain are more common as well as newly arrived Mediterranean bread e.g. &quot;Ciabatta&quot; and root bread (“Wurzelbrot”). <br />Overall I think typical German bread should include rye and ought too have a deep bake.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: Why and how did you decide to blog about bread? </span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang:I have a website for my bakery, but I always wanted it to be current and with something new on it, without having to ask the&nbsp; “internet-guy” all the time to change things. So I started to use word press to communicate with, and inform my customers about “slow baking” and everything else. It kinda turned into a blog on its own and got more popular than the website itself.<br /> I really love blogging.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: How do you think home bakers help the baking trade?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: Home bakers are very creative they always exchange&nbsp; about they’re experiences and ideas; I get a lot of inspiration from that. It also is a kind of marketing research, what are the trends and why don’t these people go to a bakery anymore?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy:How often do you change breads in your product?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: It depends how many Ideas I have. I made three new kinds of bread this year but I am changing rolls and cakes more often. There are regular customers of ours; they’re always buying the same bread so it is hard to omit something without protest.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: Germans surprisingly are the largest bread consumers per-capita, has that increased the population of bakeries?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: No, there always been such a huge consumption, although the trade bakeries are regressive. A lot of people buy industrial bread because of economical reasons; their market share advanced about 30% to 50% in the last 10 years. The quality of the industrial manufactured bread got also better.<br />This is a reason for me to do slow baking, real artisan bread without any additives.&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp; </span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: Has traditional artisan baking come to Germany like in the USA?&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;&nbsp; &nbsp;</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: How did it come to the USA? The traditional artisan baking is a result from the creation of guilds. They made regulations for the products (ingredients, materials, quality, price and how much everybody is allowed to produce). Nowadays they’re are free guilds and there is each for every trade (e.g. for image campaigns, interchange, information’s and against negative ordinances).</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: What makes German bread different from say Switzerland or France?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: Differences are rye flour, sourdough and the nationalistic signature, defensibility.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: With the downturn in the world economy, do you think artisan bakers can re-emerge from under the shadows of bread factories?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: It could go both directions. I hope that the people start thinking in a way that at least they want to eat good food if they can’t get a new car or a nice vacation. That’s why they should go into a bakery more often; a negative thing would be if more people need government subsidy so they can’t really afford anything anymore.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: How do you name your breads, for instance you have named your breads after hamsters and even Reformers?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang:&nbsp; Before I started “slow baking” I&nbsp; always got new Ideas and&nbsp; matching names for them for bag men who sell bakery improver, so that I&nbsp; would buy their products. These days I am inventing the names, I got the idea to call one “schwarzer Hamster” (black hamster) after I read an article about an animal that just lives in our area and the name “Lutherbrot” (Luther bread) from a business magazine. <br />I always ask my saleswomen what we need in our product line or what kinda products the costumers demand. The names are my own creations; you just need to think long enough about it and the ideas will come on their own.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: What are some tips to making a good German bread?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: You have to know how to make a good sourdough, a stone-oven and than you have to try it out.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy:Rye or wheat, which do you like better?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: I love both, such awesome natural materials; you can create so many things out of them. There must be a Creator.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: Will you write a bread book?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang:&nbsp; That’s a good idea, I’ll think about it! <br />And again I learned something from a blogger!</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: If someone wants to learn how to bake bread, go to school or go to Herr Süpke for a job?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang: You need both.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: How do you develop a formula for bread?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang:&nbsp; I have a good computer program, you just have to put in, for example 5kg wheat, 3kg rye, 2kg spelt, 1kg curd etc. and it tells you how much water, sourdough and salt you need to add.<br />It’s an awesome program. Afterward's I try out the recipe and let my bakers taste it, than we talk about the product so we can upgrade it. Only if they’re really enthusiastic about the new thing it will get into our shops.</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Jeremy: What is your best selling loaf?</span></p>

<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Wolfgang:&nbsp; The mixed-grain bread made out of 70% rye, 30% wheat with sourdough and lots of wheat starter.</span></p>



<p><span style="font-size: 1.2em;">Danke Sehr Baecker Süpke!</span></p></div>
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Where do you get a decent baguette like the famous <a href="http://www.maison-kayser.com/">Eric Kayser's</a>&nbsp; at 8 Rue Monge, with its egg shell crust and porous white mie that symbolize the pain quotidian of France. Quite often those crisp pointed ends are munched off before they make it home! It's been a while since I made a decent baguette, probably not since school. Whatever the case when I go back and try to make a baguette, they seem so simple to make. But if not careful and paying attention to detail which is often my lazy baking way, you could come up with a dud.</p>











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<p>A lot of bread blogs like Jane at<a href="http://aulevain.canalblog.com/"> au levain</a> have stories about her baguette travails and victories. So does <a href="http://theinversecook.wordpress.com/">Nils</a>, whose <a href="http://theinversecook.wordpress.com/2007/07/22/speaking-of-baguettes/#more-12">version</a> I have been replicating, as with many of his breads. Or try <a href="http://www.wildyeastblog.com/">Susan at wild yeast</a>
who you can't go wrong with for all her breads, baguette's included. If
you're going whole grain crazy now or feeling like a 100 percent rye,
it's not a bad thing to go back to the baguette, especially for your
cafe au lait and some jambon et fromage, porqoui pas? Here is my
dejeuner, croustillant et pret pour un peau de beurre et confiture! If
you don't read French, no worries, just figure it's an expression for a
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Michael Laiskonis has a <a href="http://michaellaiskonis.typepad.com/">great blog</a>, insights into the making of great professional kitchens from the perspect of a master of desert. So when I tried to get his colleague at Le Bernadin, Chef Eric Ripert, and scheduling conflicts prevented it, I decided to go after this talented pastry chef! One of the things that interested me about Michael was his background. Rather than attend a traditional culinary school, he worked as a line cook and baked bread, one of the things I love to do the most. </p>

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<p>Michael was so kind as to send pictures and a recipe for cider beignets, thank you Michael!</p>

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